Woman Airlifted After Head-On Crash on Route 206
All lanes were closed in Chester Township for nearly three hours Thursday.
A tractor-trailer and another vehicle collided on Route 206 in Chester Township Thursday afternoon, closing the roadway for nearly three hours.
Diane Provencher, 47, of Columbia (Warren County), was heading southbound on the roadway when she crossed over the center line, striking a tractor-trailer, Chester Township Police Chief Wayne Martini said.
Piotr Sobilo, 39, of New York, N.Y., was driving the 18-wheeler, which jack-knifed and ended up in the woods alongside Route 206. Provencher was extricated from the vehicle and flown to Morristown Medical Center, Martini said.
Sobilo was not injured in the crash, Martini said.
The cause of the crash is still under investigation, Martini said. It was not immediately known the severity of Provencher's injuries.
Chester and Peapack-Gladstone Fire Departments assisted at the scene, along with Chester First Aid. The crash occurred around 1:50 p.m. just south of Colby Road in Chester Township.
MaryLynn Schiavi
2:33 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
What is up with that stretch of road? We have had at least four serious accidents along that same stretch of road on route 206 in the last two years. Good grief.
Larry Martin
3:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Most of these trucks use 206 illegally. Most are banned from RT 206 unless making a local delivery. I don't know why the police do not enforce this law. It was passed an enforced in 1999, then challenged, then rewritten but it is in effect and rarely enforced.
rusty corvair
9:13 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
The article said she crossed the centerline. Why are you blaming the truck?
Larry Martin
9:29 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Hi Rusty, I was not blaming the truck driver, I never said that although good possibility he should not be on RT 206 at all. Read down further.
Claire
5:44 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Would that be enforced by state police or local? Is that the issue?
Brian
6:31 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
There isn't one sign that says no trucks. I doubt it's not a truck route
Barbara Ross
8:11 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I am pretty sure I've seen signs along 206 in the Chester (or maybe it's Mt. Olive) section warning about "slow trucks." I'm sure it IS a truck route.
Tom G
6:40 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
That stretch has always been a problem for some reason. They used to have signs posted reading "High Fatality" zone or area, I can't recall which. Don't know why they were taken down.
Brad Harmon
6:45 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ Larry how do u know that most are using the highway illegally are u a trooper or an officer or do u have a CDL license @ Claire both can enforce the law @Brian it is a truck route
Lou Case
6:53 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
what leads you to believe that it was the trucks fault?
MaryLynn Schiavi
6:54 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
From the report, it sounds like the car headed south veered into the truck's lane. The tractor trailer driver does not appear to be the one at fault in this accident.
LV Taxpayer
8:35 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Whenever you see " when she crossed over the center line, " think 'cell phone'.
Sharon Battaglino
9:00 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I believe that I heard on WMTR radio today that the car driver was DUI and that the poor truck driver is now deceased, leaving her with minor injuries. So much for blaming the truck or blaming cell phones!!!
Liberty
6:21 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Sharon--the article said the truck driver was not injured.
deb knobelman
6:54 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
people drive like idiots over there. i work in streets of chester, and i have never seen such bad drivers in my life.
Larry Martin
7:05 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ Claire, can be enforced by either local or State Police
@Brian, it is not an approved truck route and specifically not part of the NJ highway network.
For anyone interested, Good article on the history of the the "Truck Ban"
http://www.ilsr.org/rule/vehicle-limitations/2590-2/
Facts from NJ about the laws
http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/about/press/2007/012507.shtm
NJ Large truck Network current laws:
http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/freight/trucking/regulations.shtm
Larry Martin
7:15 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ Brad, take a look at the the links I posted. Been following this since 1999 and it is a shame how its been handled.
Baileigh Rose
8:31 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
check her phone she was probably on it
Brad Harmon
8:56 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ larry since you dont have the gacts of the accidents dont assume the truck is at fault, again the trucks are allowed to use 206 if the load starts and or terminared in NJ
Larry Martin
10:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ Brad, Hi, I never said the truck was at fault. I just think the trucks tend to make the accidents worse on an already somewhat dangerous road.
You seem interested in 206 but not fully informed. The trucker's load would have to start or end along 206, such as a delivery. Does not matter where the load originated, in fact saying it has to be originated in NJ is exactly why the first truck ban law was challenged, that wording was deemed to favor NJ truckers and discriminate against out of state truckers. The law was heavily enforced when first passed in 1999, after it was re-written is when the enforcement stopped.
As of now, trucks may only use the secondary highway system for local deliveries, or to get food or fuel. Trucks properly using the secondary highway system must then proceed to the national highway system by the shortest route. Interesting example of this is Toy-R-Us trucks leaving Flanders and proceeding south to RT 287 - this is illegal, they are to make their way to RT 80 as it is the closest access to the national highway system. This makes most of the truck traffic through Chester and Peapack illegal, nobody is making deliveries in this area, they are cutting through from RT 80 to RT 287 or eventually RT 78. I don't know if you are a Police officer, trucker, etc but as good as the 2 Chester Police forces are, and many do understand this law, they don't enforce it even though they did back in 1999. Time for some more calls to the NJ DOT.
Oldtimer
11:13 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
That road was designed in the late 20', early 30's and really has not been upgraded properly.Pretty much most of the accidents I have witnessed on 206 are in the straight stretches, where folks figure they can stare at the cellphone a bit longer etc. Last 2 good wrecks I've seen involving trucks, the truckers did all they could and then some to get out of the way of the car. Looks like this guy did too. The real enforcement we need to see is the cellphone/texting. Police could easily write 100 tickets a day just standing on the islands at the 24/206 intersection. I drive with my eyes on the road and the cars coming at me.You can spot the cellphone users at 100 yards.
LV Taxpayer
8:38 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Cell phone usage during driving should be a primary offense and carry points.
About Me
2:39 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Cell phone usage in cars should be banned altogether. It serves no useful purpose and many drivers obviously have little common sense or self-restraint. HEAVY fines and the threat of losing one's driving prvilege would prove to be a sound deterrent and lives would be saved, there is no doubt. Our society is way out of control and action must be taken to save it from complete destruction. Making cell phone usage in automobiles illegal would be a great place to start.
LV Taxpayer
8:40 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Cars can easily be mad to create a signal or interference when the vehicle is in motion, that would prohibit the cell phone from being used.
The problem is the the Civil Liberties Union would jump all over that, saying that passengers should have the right.
rusty corvair
9:21 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Mandatory 30 days jail time would put a quick stop to it. People laugh at the current system of fines.
roger freiday
8:04 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Ditto to the amount of tickets the police could issue. Try standing on the old stone bridge in Long Valley one day in rush hour. Last time I crossed it, at least one in every three cars had a phone stuck in their ear. As far as that trucker being lawfully on 206 or not, it appears it was the other driver who rammed him, so that seems to be a lot more incriminating than the trucker's POSSIBLE mis-use of the roadway.
Janet Ellis
8:53 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
There can always be extenuating circumstances, so I will not jump to the conclusion that it was distracted driving - though that is such a strong possibility in any accident today. We might look at the other perspective -- that this accident with another passenger vehicle may have been a much worse tragedy. Sounds like the tractor trailer driver did a pretty good job of managing his vehicle and avoiding further injury.
PD73
10:11 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I'd be shocked if she wasn't on her cell phone. My heart is still pounding thinking of the accident I successfully avoided last week on Route 24 in LV at the curve by the church with the crucifixes. I was heading from Chester and a car was coming at me almost completely in my lane. Almost ran off the road to avoid him. He/she had no idea what almost happened. Praying for this woman.
Anna o
7:54 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I agree with you that this was probably a cell phone issue , texting or possibly DUI. And yes it could have been someone with a medical problem like a stroke or something. I have personally emailed the Chester Twsp police in the past about cell phone misuse on Rt 24 and Rt 206 and they as well as everywhere need to make this a priority. I have witnessed like you so many cars crossing over the lane and speeding as well.
I fear for my life on these roads because of these idiots.
We can make our roads safer. Look at 206 before they put the turning lanes in and the light at Shop rite.....too long before they did that!
What about rumble strips or a cement divider like on Rt 10. This is a state issue or DOT so let's get it done.
Mr T
6:00 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Hey Larry. How would you know if most of the trucks shouldn't be on 206? Do you check their bill of ladings as they pass through? There are many stores and businesses that receive deliveries daily between the 287 corridor to the 80 corridor. Most truckers would prefer to drive on interstate roads instead of state roads with stop lights any day, so most likely they are making a local delivery if they are on state roads. Also the law reads no trucks that are 102" wide, a lot of trailers are 96" wide. Also Larry, you would prob be the 1st one to bitch at a higher charge if you had a delivery that was forced to travel an additional 30/40 miles. As far as toys r us Larry... Their trucks are 96" wide, so they are legal to dive on these roads. The law was a bad law when passed and that's why no one enforces it. if a trucker is near the Chester area and it is an 8 mile drive to interstate 80 and a 10 mile drive to 287, is it really reasonable for the trucker to drive 8 miles to 80 then 18 miles to 287 then 20 miles to the 206 exit, when they could've just driven 2 extra miles and been at the same point. If trucks are so dangerous, I would think the less miles they have to travel the better. Just saying. Can't believe you even brought up truckers, when it states that the auto crossed the center line. Put your cell phone and burger down and watch the road.
Mark
11:53 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
This is not true. we have the same problem along Route 31 in Flemington where drivers are taking "short cuts" and avoidiung toll roads. Distance is not our concern. The safety on the roads is so your arguement is invalid. Less travel is better, so why not let truck drivers ride on any road they choose. The laws are in place for a reason and no its not to make your life harder.
Chris Jansen
8:30 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
dialing and texting while driving will eventually be illegal AND seriously enforced AFTER we get tired of the carnage. sadly, many innocent victims will be crippled and killed before we finally act.
Gayle DiGioacchino
10:58 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
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Gayle DiGioacchino
11:13 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
3 years ago I had the same car accident in almost same the same spot on 206 south. I went over the yellow line and hit a tractor trailer head on. To quote the police "your cell phone was neatly tucked in your purse". I have no memory of the accident, was told that an eye witness said I was driving perfectly fine when all of a sudden I jerked right into on coming traffic. We never figured out the reason ( maybe avoiding an animal??). I have had 9 surgeries to repair both of my legs, I will never walk like I used to, but the good news is I CAN WAlK! This was clearly my fault, I do not blame the truck driver but, I think 206 is a dangerous road and if it is true about the trucks illegally driving on them, that should be stopped. Speed limits are too fast for traffic with no divider in between north and south. My prayers to Diane for a speedy recovery, i hope your injuries are not as bad as mine were.
Larry Martin
11:26 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
@ Mr T. Your post is not factual and not sure why the attack? I think truckers are generally very good drivers, just interested in safety on an already difficult road (No dividers, limited shoulder, deer closing, etc) . Point is, as I said, a large percentage of the trucks on 206 are driving there illegibly - this was proven when the traffic dropped by at least 40-50% when the police where pulling them over and ticketing in 1999 - most were trying to save just 5-10 miles Vs other routes.
Statistically the less 60-80,000 pound vehicles you have on a road the less accidents, and the less severe. As for me I don't eat in the car, text, or talk on the phone without a hands free, over 3 decades without an accident. I also don't eat Burger King, it is worse for you than driving on RT 206 while texting.
Something maybe we could agree about is the truckers are generally very good drivers, much better than auto drivers but the trucks are huge and can make an accident much worse.... I did witness a trucker coming south on 206 who neglected to see a stopped school bus (Lights flashing) and he ended up stopping 25 feet past the back of the bus after swerving into in the oncoming lane. He was not a good driver and had their been north-bound traffic he would have either had a head-on or took out the bus. Just one accident like this and the sentiment would change. I am not saying it will happen but it could.
FourScore
2:09 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
But to Mr. T's argument, which I think has a lot of merit, why would a trucker take Rte 206 unless he had a delivery somewhere along that route??? That stretch of 206 between Rte 80 in Mt. Olive and Rte 287 in Bedminster does have a LOT of businesses on it (not the mention the Toys R Us warehouse in Flanders), and how are truckers to make deliveries unless they travel 206? It's certainly not their fault that the highway was ill designed for the volume of traffic that is necessitated today.
Larry Martin
2:37 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
@ Hookerman, Mr T didn't write or probably read the law. His post is his opinion and his argument has no merit unless he wants to work to have the law changed. I see lots of opinions on this thread but the law is the law and not being enforced, DOT confirms what I am saying, most Police agree but there is still no enforcement.
What you wrote about is not in question, trucks with local deliveries or who need food or fuel can leave the National Highway System to use secondary roads like 206. Some other rules apply like weight limits, and using the shortest route. The part of the law that is really being ignored is the example I gave where a truck leaving a warehouse along 206 that is ultimately heading west or South/west toward say RT 81. (Such as a 102 in wide Toys R Us Truck) According to the law that trucker should take the shortest distance to the National Highway System and then can proceed as they want. So from Flanders they must go to Route 80 as it is CLOSER than RT 287 via RT 206 south. Trucker could then go east on 287 and proceed to RT 78 to RT 81 or Take Rt 80 West to 476 in PA to RT 78 to 81. Either way it may be 15-20 miles longer although might not take longer as 206 is much slower. I will admit this is a little complicated but it is the way the law was written.
I really have nothing more to say on this unless people actually want to read and discuss the law. I don't dislike truckers, Police, etc just hoping for a little bit safer RT 206. Thanks.
FourScore
5:17 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Do you know for certain that Toys R Us trucks are over 102" wide? Do you know for certain that the truck involved in this accident was over 102" wide? If not, then isn't you point moot?
Larry Martin
6:18 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Hi Hookerman, Yes, most modern 48 to 53 foot long trailers are almost all 102 inches wide. I am not sure if the truck involved was 102 inches wide but again most are. In this case it looks like it had nothing to do with the accident, but I never made that point or said the truck driver was in error. To his credit and as someone said it looks like he went way out of his way to minimize the impact of the truck on the women's car - I would say he risked his life for her and I certainly hope he is OK.
My original comment was very general about this accident, I am just concerned about the trucks on 206, as many many are, and as we all should be. Less trucks = less accidents and less severe accidents.
A side note, putting the Toys R Us warehouse where it is turned out to be a major error. It appears the rail access never worked out and now we have a lot of trucks on an road that was never designed for it. Not something we can change but unfortunate.
Gayle DiGioacchino
12:57 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
@ Not Domino, I agree totoally, think of this all the time and am so thankful that no one else was hurt. Still think the road needs to be changed somehow, as said earlier dividers and slower speed limits would help in some areas.
Liberty
2:35 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Reply to Larry--It seems as though if she had hit another car instead of the truck the accident would have been more severe and perhaps had fatalities. She crossed the center line, she caused the accident--not a truck.
Larry Martin
2:47 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Hi Liberty, Completely agree with you in this case it is very fortunate she did not cause a fatality. I do hope they are both OK, especially the truck driver.
Mr T
7:29 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Larry, I must know something about the law, because I knew that it wasn't all trucks that were restricted, just the ones that are 102" wide, which may i say, you failed to mention in your 1st post, when saying trucks are illegally traveling on 206. If you take into consideration, the number of business on 206 that get deliveries from trucks, and the ones that are under 102" wide, you probably have a very small % of trucks traveling illegally. I've been driving tractor trailer for 30yrs and run these roads daily. there is not one reason a truck cant safely navigate these roads. Also, they still make 96" wide trailers. Here is a few Companies that use them, UPS, FedEx, USPS, ABF,Overnight Ground force, shop rite and yes Toys R Us. All are legal to travel these roads. Now, a dump truck can legally weigh in 80,000-100,000lbs, and are much more unbalanced at this weight then a tractor trailer due to weight distrbution. Also an accident involving a 102" wide trailer and 96" wide trailer would be pretty much identical. You hit a nerve with me because, as always, someone finds a way to point the finger in the truckers direction. Remember, if you have it, a truck got it there
Mr T
7:58 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
So Larry, I just did some research and turns out no trucks are illegal on state roads in NJ since 2006. Here is an article I copied from nj.gov;
On February 21, 2006, the U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals found New Jersey’s large truck routing regulations unconstitutional and NJDOT has repealed these rules and replaced them with regulations that re-established the truck routing restrictions that were in place before 1999. These regulations were adopted on June 22, 2006.
You seem to know the law well, but i guess you didn't know that it doesnt exist anymore.
Larry Martin
8:59 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Hi Mr. T. You make some good points and I really don't want to argue with you, this really isn't a good forum.
One of my original posts has the current truck regulations now in effect.
http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/about/rules/pdf/chapter32truckaccess.pdf - Ironically it expires tomorrow?
Yes, the original 1999 truck ban was repelled and then replaced with an equally restrictive statewide law (Above) that was non-discriminatory to NJ and Non-NJ trucks. 206 is covered in this as are other secondary roads. So, There are currently large truck regulations in effect in NJ.
I have complemented truckers in general a few times here. I will say it again, the truckers are safer drivers than many of the automobile drivers. I see a lot of people on cell phones, drinking sodas, etc too. They are the most dangerous, no doubt, and we have not even talked about the deer problem!
Its a dangerous road and we should leave it at this, we should do whatever can be done to make it less dangerous.
LV Taxpayer
8:47 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
You guy wanna go on about trucks----
What about all the trucks traversing Schooley's Mountain?
Talk about a tragedy waiting to happen!
LV Taxpayer
8:52 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
The Mountain has a weight limit for trucks.
Cops wouldn't pull over trucks that they suspected of exceeding that limit because then they would then have to escort the truck to a weigh station in Mt. Olive to determine if it was indeed over weight.
Several years ago, they changed the law to where, now if a truck was RATED at a certain weight, that was the weight at which it would be prohibited from entering certain roadways.
But the same trucks seem to be traversing the Mountain freely.
Why?