Personal Tech Devices OK'd for High Schools
Regional school board unanimously approves student use of their own wireless devices in the classroom.
No need for teens to leave their technology devices at home during the school day anymore, as the West Morris Regional Board of Education unanimously decided to allow district students to bring their own wireless devices to class.
The B.Y.O.T.–Bring Your Own Technology–initiative has been batted around since schools superintendent Mackey Pendergrast took his position in March 2012, and became official with a vote at the board’s most recent meeting.
Students won’t be able to take advantage of the new initiative just yet, as the board is still creating policies around the move.
“What are the parameters?” Pendergrast asked the board. “We still need to analyze and create responsible usage policy and social media policy.”
Along with the initiative comes the proper infrastructure for each school building to support the technology, which, Pendergrast said, is not yet in place. Wi-Fi capabilities will need to be implemented–a line item that will likely find its way into the upcoming proposed budget.
After surveying faculty at both schools, there was an overwhelming response to move forward with the move, Pendergrast said. “The teachers basically said we ‘need to get with it.’”
According to outgoing senior and West Morris Central High School representative to the board Alexandra Dean, the initiative would likely work, but regardless of policies put in place students will do what they want.
“If a student who normally goofs off in class has (a device), they’re likely going to still goof off,” Dean said. “If a student who normally focuses in class is using their device, chances are they’ll still stay focused.”
What do you think students being able to use their own technology devices in the classroom?
Not Domino
5:39 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I didn't vote because my vote is 50/50 : YES, if the school WiFi blocks Facebook, Twitter, and all other sorts of non-education related network traffic, and NO if the school doesn't.
LV Resident
7:41 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I think that moving forward with technology is a good thing.
A little confused about the comment: "Wi-Fi capabilities will need to be implemented–.." There is already wi-fi at the high school.
And I agree that they should block the social networking sights.
dm
8:10 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
blocking the social networking sites does nothing if the students have the apps installed on their phones
Maria
8:25 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I'm torn on this one...I have a friend who is a teacher in a H.S. where they have allowed kids to bring in tech. They just made a change to NOT allow them because it has become such a detriment to the learning process.
I'd like to know WHY is it so needed in the classroom. A word processor would be helpful for writing classes, so laptops should be in the classroom for use instead of small keyboard tech brought from home. Research for projects should be done at home or there should be PCs with strong filters available for ALL students in the school. Some kids have these items and some don't...and there is such a variety of tech, to implement some kind of standard/rule of conduct sounds difficult if not impossible.
If the school wants to implement this for learning purposes, it should be fair to ALL students, and should be STRICTLY enforced.
rktekchik
8:49 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Again the control parameters would have to be so complex? And surely there are ways around just about any parameter that is set. I think it's not only a distraction but can be used for 'evil' even more, think cyber bullying tenfold? Not sure why its needed? Surely there is enough technology devices in the schools for everyone to access already? And what about students that don't have devices, can't afford them or otherwise, do they get left behind because the devises are being used for 'good' and they don't have one?
FourScore
9:04 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Does this mean the kids can actually use the devices during class??? Can use their devices during tests to search the internet and get the correct answers?
denise
10:45 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Terrible idea....kids are addicted to devices constantly at all other times. I have to go by my experience with 3 kids 14+....and their friends.... I can't get their attention in the car anymore, and that was where I at least thought they had to listen because they can't run away.....not anymore...they're having conversations texting with numerous people while playing a video game and nodding and smiling at me as though they acknowledge what I am saying just to appease me. The phones are on silence so u think they are paying attention but they're not. It's really rude when I'm with anyone and they are talking on the phone or texting for more than a minute. State your business, call/ text back later unless its urgent, but just to blah blah blah is rude, so the teachers will be really struggling for respect and attention if they allow this. The old saying...give someone an inch, they take a yard.... Well with phones not allowed now, they're being used anyway in a minimal extent. One may not fully be experienced in human nature to believe that the present focused kids won't be joining the others . We all have become addicted to our electronic devices and the way it's changing can be positive if we restrict usage. ....put the phones away when driving, during school , family dinner time, and when you're with a friend or loved one keep it short and sweet to show respect .
Mike M
10:54 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
What happens when a locker room prank finds its way on youtube?
LV Taxpayer
3:16 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Bingo.
Major issue #1 with BYOD - privacy concerns.
Number 2 is security.
Who assumes responsibility for these inevitable breeches, the School Board, who approves of it? Who ultimately pays for it?
What was the reason we want to do this? I must've missed that...
Margot
11:02 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
kids already text from their pockets and generally have their noses in their phones 24/7, and some kids have more tech than others, does that give them unfair advantage? will they be able to video tape lesson? Will tests be open book? You can have controls on school issued tech, but you can hardly police personal devices, so I'm unclear how this will help teachers/students. Kids who have grown up with all these devices usually know how to get around the system, and in general, understand all of it better than their teachers. I would just like to know in what context these devices will be used, but I assume it will be like having calculators in a Math class.
LV Taxpayer
12:51 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
This is a MUCH bigger deal than they know.
BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) has many, many considerations that I'm not sure a school system is prepared to deal with. Many large corporations with knowledgeable I/T staff are struggling with the idea.
Just because “The teachers basically said we ‘need to get with it.’” doesn't necesarily mean we should.
LVMom
6:17 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Kids need to take responsibility for their education, we can't sit around and tell them not to move forward because we don't know how to 'limit' them. Education is about pushing the limits and teaching a child to learn, explore and define their own goals.
There are some schools that have jumped into this idea and are now assigning work on a MONTHLY basis to HS students (as in, this is what's due, no reminders, schedule your own time). If you want your child ready for college then you want your child to be able to make smart choices.
Not Domino
1:09 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
After further consideration, I think this is a good idea. It will give students an additional way to compete with one another - based on who has the coolest, newest, best, and most expensive device. The students will more readily be able to differentiate between the 'rich' kids and the 'poor' kids based on what device they are carrying rather than having to rely just on their clothing brands or the type of car in which they arrive at school. Also, by not standardizing on any particular technology platform, it will help to promote mass confusion and inefficiency by wasting time wrestling with file compatibility and software compatibility issues. That will certainly help to keep things interesting and keep the focus squarely on learning. Especially since all of the teachers are IT experts.
Domino
2:56 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
You have to wonder about an individual who would use the name of a tragic victim as an alias. Proud of yourself?
http://www.shmais.com/chabad-news/latest/item/yankel-rosenbaum-20-years-on
Not Domino
4:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Yes, that last sentence in the article you referenced sums it up very nicely: "As he has been transformed in death to a public figure, there is now enough of him that anyone can too retain a small part deep inside them – to inspire and give strength."
Maria
5:45 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Not Domino - I agree.
Again, the question is WHY IS IT NEEDED? What is the school struggling with that a smartphone will IMPROVE upon? Do kids no longer have the ability to converse without texting? Do they struggle with a pencil and paper?
I think time AWAY from tech gadgets is what kids need to focus on using their BRAINS (not an app) to problem solve. Tech needed for school work should be school property (much easier to filter out undesirable content) and be available to all students.
LVMom
6:24 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
so your for uniforms, no cars, on school property and mass conformity? Cool, bring on the old soviet union -- after all that was such a great success.
there is NO way to keep kids from knowing who has money and who doesn't (from hair cut to address) - i was one of the 'poor' kids growing up, yes it sucked, but it made me work that much harder to succeed.
as for teachers being IT experts, um.. have you met today's kids? most kids are IT experts.
as for who has the best tech... some parents don't buy their kids tech, they make them earn it. it's what we do.
denise
2:06 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Lol....and the competition is starting in preschool(my nephews parents bought them iPads for Christmas because their friends kids have them and they annoy the parents until they give in as if its normal for a 3 year old to have ....allowing it in highschool now , grammar school is next inevitably.....
Denobin
5:36 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Guess what? This is going on already and has been for a while. At least having access controls in place (via the new WiFi network) will allow the school the opportunity to block sites that are potentially distracting and/or disruptive. Anyone who wants to get around it will use cellular data instead, but again, students are already doing so. The lure of not using precious data plan ($) can be a way to reign in the majority. Also, the school could potentially leverage the network to distribute messages or interactive learning, instant polls, etc.
LVMom
6:13 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
ABOUT TIME!
to other posters, i ASSUME school can block it, if not they can get one of the tech geeks to do it FOR FREE - really stop hiring people to do what the kids can do...
as for distraction, the same kids will be distracted that write notes, draw, and stare out the window. the kids that want to learn will use this to their advantage.
now let's move to tech savvy text books, and just a thought .... global classrooms so our kids can REALLY understand what it's like on the other side.
we keep our kids in a bubble in this town. i can't tell you how many Mendham kids don't know they ARE the 1% or Long Valley kids that they are the 5-10% ...
-- there is NO reason that we can't study Lit, along with a school in Newark, Tn, Canada, an afternoon class with CA, or a morning class with England. Yea, it might not always be 'easy' or convient but it works
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we homeschoolers do it all the time .. my daughter classmates range from Tansania to Vienna to S. America .. she knows kids who fly to other countries to take AP exams and knows the point of views of kids from the Bible Belt to Liberal CA .. and they ALL get along ... it's common for homeschoolers to study with other kids around the world now let's bring that into our classroom!
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LVMom
7:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
She loves having friends from every walk of life and from so many countries... flying here for AP is a pain for many and some have to fly for the SAT... "the kid from Malasia is way cooler" LOL
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BIG problem around here is I hear "Why am I the ONLY one to have never lived in multiple countries, I've never done anything 'amazing' with my life" ...she wants to do some cool overseas stuff while in college.
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so trust me computers will be the LEAST of your expenses when you open their mind to the 'real world' out there.
mrwilson
10:34 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
I think letting homeschooled kids seek social interaction through the internet is better than nothing. Based on the last month, we just need an assault weapon ban for them.
LVMom
11:38 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
seriously?
Homeschooled students do better academically nation wide... they out preform public and private school kids in the top colleges in the country.
as for kids with issues, it's not a homeschool issue - perhaps if his school didn't fail him, if his school had a special needs program that met his needs he wouldn't have been homeschooled.
When i child is homeschooled for academic reasons it's different then when they are homeschooled because the school does't know how to deal with their needs.
as for social interaction... trust me she IS social... probably more so then most kids around here. how many kids around here have friends from all over the country, various political outlooks, different economic backgrounds, various ages and abilities... she has friends that are concert pianists, write concertos and books, and friends who are missionaries. they video chat, they get together (yes, they fly in to see each other)....
add to that her friends from dance, and other activities ...
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if you are THAT concerned about socialization and homeschoolers let them participate in after school activities and teams (it's legal in this state our school board just blocks it)
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RANT OVER.. sorry but don't blame homeschooling for bad behavior or i'll blame school for drugs, teen sex, violence, and gangs. neither makes any sense.
einaphets
7:39 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Sorry LV Mom. I think you are generalizing about children in WM. My children have cousins on every almost continent, they travel outside of the country with either family or school every summer, and thanks to social networking have friends living in far flung places. The number of WM children who travel on school organized trips is huge. Boy Scouts has allowed them the opportunity to hike in the NM mountains, sail in the Florida keys and hike the forests of MN. I envy the opportunities my kids have had to see other places and meet new people. i didnt at their age. Great if you think homeschooling works for your kid. Arent we lucky that we get to make the choices we think best for our own kids.
LVMom
7:50 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
First it's great your kids have traveled.
Second I'm not talking about "exciting places" I'm talking about seeing the "other half" the kids in Newark the kids , the kids in S American villages, the poor, the minority, I'm talking studying lit with kids from other walks of life. A radon in the sun is interpreted different from a poor black student in the south then a kid in either HS.
Talking studying history with kids from south central LA- changes the riots and why they happened. Discussing human rights with a fundamentalist who doesn't think woman should go to college other then so they can homeschool the kids- or not at all.
I'm saying we can use technology to bring the world together.
A Boy Scout trip (don't get me started on Boy Scouts as an origination and why it should be banned from public schools) in the keys is NOT the same. I'm sure it's great, but there are kids that would be happy to have a calculator to do math, while your kid is sailing. I'm talking about opening their eyes and minds to how the other 95% lives.
- sent from iPhone
Alice Jameson
8:15 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
While I’m familiar with Lorraine Hansberry’s "A Raisin in the Sun,” this “A radon in the sun" you reference is a new one on me. Was it written in Ebonics?
LVMom
8:26 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Nope iPhone-onics. LOL
It's about a salesman in NJ who lives on a superfund sight. LOL (sorry couldn't resist). So perhaps iPhones should not be part of the tech in schools- at least not with fat fingered adults.
MDL
9:15 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Have studies been done? "we need to get with it" from the teachers sounds pretty serious.?:(
LV Taxpayer
10:43 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
A superfund 'sight' is when you *see* a gigantic garbage dump.
Maria
10:54 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
LVMom - I agree that tech can be used in exciting ways to educate kids about other cultures, and should be integrated with every school subject on some level...BUT is this what this decision is about? By allowing kids to bring their personal tech, to me, sounds very different from the things you are suggesting.
Help me to envision this...a classroom of kids discussing "A Raisin in the Sun". They are communicating ON THEIR PERSONAL TECH to other kids in other countries about the book. Questions: What about the kid(s) without? Does the school reimburse those who don't have unlimited time on their plan? Does the teacher walk around, squinting into every tiny screen to ensure that they are on task? Sounds MUCH easier to have school laptops, filters in place, larger screens and full size keyboards for proper home key practice, for the students to complete this (and any other) lesson.
We shouldn't confuse this discussion - using tech to facilitate learning and bringing personal tech to school are two very different things.
LVMom
7:36 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
personal tech device can be a laptop, ipad or anything else the student personally owns - it does not simply mean smartphone... and as for 'overage' they would be on the intranet/internet.
for those who TRUELY can't afford one i'm sure we could raise money.. i'd rather donate what i can, then be forced to pay more taxes.
LV Taxpayer
8:23 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I thought you were a home-schooler?
LVMom
9:51 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Not Domino,
Thank you for your care and concern. I am glad to see that the children in this town have such wonderful role-models. Your willingness to make this a forum that welcomes people, without name calling or fear of internet bulling is astounding.
For the life of me I can't imagine why our home values are down and people are not rushing to move to this town. It obviously, by your concern, is a community working together for a common good.
LVMom
8:42 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I am... so? I still pay taxes... I just have the "joy" of also paying to educate my child and not work.
I still have the right to have thoughts on education, in fact since i spend most of my time managing all aspects of education from curriculum to text i know a fair amount about ed.
LV Taxpayer
8:59 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I don't understand why you have any stake in technology in the schools, though.
LVMom
10:26 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
First I care about the kids.
Second it's called being human and caring about the furtherment of education and all of the children are important.
Third I live here and my home value is related to the schools.
LVMom
10:30 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
oh, and if the only ones who care about education are parents of current students then we live in a very very sad town. it is only when we work together for the common good that we as a town/school/people can be effective.
HistorianWT
11:37 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Oh cool! A drum circle......
Maria
9:51 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
What is currently allowed in the H.S.? I'd like to understand how the school can possibly filter and monitor for inappropriate material if kids are allowed smartphones...I like the idea of allowing laptops/tablets, allowing filtered internet/intranet use only (not cellular data). I think smartphones in the classroom is an awful idea.
LVMom
9:54 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Maria, I will admit I assumed that we are talking tablet/laptops not smartphones. Unfortunately I didn't make the meeting. It actually never occurred to me that smartphones would even be a consideration till someone here brought it up.
Good point.
LV Taxpayer
10:44 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Not all tablets require Wi-Fi and can be regulated as to the content they receive. A 3G or 4G tablet can use the same connectivity to the internet as a smartphone.
How would you control that?
LVMom
11:06 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
LV Taxpayer does have a good point.
Many schools I've visited block cell service, I just assumed ours did too.
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ps. anyone know of someplace closer then Short Hills or Bridgwater to get a macbook keyboard replaced? This is killing me. I type.... nothing happens... UGH (Apple's not the same without Steve)
Lemonade
9:43 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Honestly, I'm not sure how a conversation regarding technology turns into infighting between homeschoolers, public school and private school. To get back on topic, there are many uses for technology. Some teachers will use it to provide art samples from various museums. Others will use it to annotate a students paper. Some will use it to communicate homework assignments/assistance. Some will post on You Tube. Some students will use it to take notes. Some students will use it to manage their calendar. Some will use it to start a Power Point presentation due at the end of the week. Some students will use it to take pictures of the class notes written on the blackboards. Some coaches will use it to provide statistics. Students and teachers will use it the same way every working parent and stay at home mom uses it The options are endless. Two challenges I see here - it may be difficult to manage without standardizing on one product and the games are distracting. However, as the student BOE rep indicated, those that fool around will continue and those who don't will find value in the technology.
LVMom
2:51 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
I tried to answer this earlier, but my personal technology device (aka iphone) failed to post it. LOL
Lemonade, I was never trying to make this a homeschool vs public school vs private school issue. I personally believe that there is NO, as in NOT ANY, perfect school option... their is however, the perfect school option for your child. Children are unique and so should the choice a parent makes for their school option. I know parents that employ more then one option as a family, due to the differences in their children's personality.
I don't think you need to standardize, as every program you mentioned works on both apple and pc.
As I said, and agree with the student BOE rep, those who fool around will continue to.
If I was not clear, I apologize. I think tech in the school opens many options, and I would think that various teachers will employ it various ways. I was offering ways I've seen it used, or envision it. I would love to see teachers get creative, and use this to further their creative passion for teaching.