'Granny': Mendham Township Cop Mistreated Me
Pulled over for driving too slow, 'full-time grandmother' was tested for DWI.
According to 70-year-old Nancy Meyer, the Mendham Township Police were overly aggressive, lacking compassion and showed her “no humanity” in a traffic stop that ended with a breathalyzer test on May 31.
In a complaint made to the Mendham Township Committee Tuesday night, Meyer and her husband, Bob, residents of Lebanon Township, said they were there to “let the people of this town know this is how they treat people.”
Meyer told the committee she is a “professional granny” who commutes 500 miles a week to take care of her grandchildren. She said she drives slowly and carefully not only because she has family in the car often, but because it is better for the environment.
“I was surprised when I was pulled over,” Meyer said. “I had waited to make my slow start off of Tingley Road on Route 24.”
Meyer claimed Officer Matthew Ambrosi informed her she was traveling more than 15 miles under the posted speed limit.
“I said to him, ’I’m driving a Prius and I get 53 miles to the gallon,’” Meyer said.
It was then that Meyer stated she was told to get out of the car.
“I was brought to the front of my car, like a criminal, and asked if I had been drinking,” Meyer said. “His tone was not polite or respectful.”
At that point, Meyer said she was given a list of commands as part of a field sobriety test, which she said she performed to satisfaction, but she said the officers at the scene told her they could smell alcohol on her.
“I told them if they could smell the cocktail I had for dinner they should be able to smell the garlic, salmon and strawberries I had as well,” Meyer said.
Meyer agreed to a Breathalyzer test hoping it would “end it,” and according to her, it did. After the test showed she was not intoxicated, Meyers said she was told to return to return to her car.
“No explanation. No apology. I am a respectable senior citizen and I did nothing that warranted his attitude and disrespect. I did nothing to even deserve the stop,” Meyer said. “This has affected my sleep.”
Meyer was unable to speak with Police Chief Steve Crawford to follow up on the incident and has pressed for an internal affairs investigation while she waits on a copy of the tape of her traffic stop.
“I know this is very difficult for you, and I am going to ask the police committee to look into this,” Mendham Township Mayor Sam Tolley said.
Crawford could not comment as Attorney General guidelines for Internal Affairs investigations prohibit it until an outcome is reached.
For her part, Meyer said things could have been different.
“I wouldn’t have minded the stop if he had been a gentleman and treated me with humanity,” Meyer said. “He robbed me of the faith I had of everyone in a blue uniform.”
RJ
6:24 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
I am sure he was just doing his job. I have always been treated with respect by the Mendham Township PD.
Janis
6:52 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
Common practice for Mendham Township PD
Paul
7:24 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
I would have to disagree because the MTPD does not normally stop you unless you are a high school student or someone that was lured in to sell drugs to our children.
RJ
7:41 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
I just wanted to add,I am very thankful for the MTPD. There have been many times when they have been very helpful to me. I feel our town is very safe because of them.
lisa lonergan
11:03 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
I understand why they pulled her over - driving to slowly- could have caused and accident but to assume she was drinking.??? That is excessive. They should focus on the cell phone and texting of many drivers in this town. Someone is going to lose their life because of it. That will be a sad day!!
Jane
2:50 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
She had drank prior to getting into the car and she blew .05. You drive under the speed limit and smell of alcohol, you will be tested. It's called good police work.
Russ Crespolini
11:29 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
Guys, great conversation on both sides of the issue. But we can't be libeling people or accusing them of things without backing it up. Smith, your opinion is WELCOME on the site. And if you feel they are overpaid for the job they do that is your right. But libeling them beyond that we can't allow. Please keep that in mind. And I would encourage you to repost either sans that material or with more supporting information. You can also send material to me at russ.crespolini@patch.com.
Hungry
12:49 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
While I'm sure Mendham Township police do a very good job protecting their residents, there seems to be a generally wide perception that if you drive thru the Mendhams, especially in later hours, you're going to get tailed or pulled over. I suppose the intent is to be a deterrent to would-be DUI'ers. But even for us non-drinkers, much like the woman in this article, there's an expectation that you'll be pulled over for just about anything.
Not long ago, during evening hours, I swerved to avoid a deer on Rt 24. A Mendham Township officer pulled me over. He was less than cordial asking me why I swerved. He asked if I had anything to drink, and I politely told him no, that I simply swerved to avoid the deer, which he acknowledged he saw as well. Still, with no probable cause, he had me get out of the car and go thru the standard DUI tests "for his own confirmation". I eventually went along my merry way, but I'll avoid Mendham altogether whenever possible. Protecting residents is one thing. Having a reputation for being over-bearing to the motoring public is another.
rholleran
7:02 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
I know someone who was terminally ill decided to die at home, but the couldn't keep the hospice nurses who were supposed to come around the clock because the got pulled over so many times by the Mendham police.
Many of my friends who live in Chester call the drive from the Black Horse to Chester "The Guantlet."
While I appreciate living in a safe town, the police often treat the residents like suspects for no justifiable reason. I've been on the receiving end of that myself and have met with the police chief about 2 years to tell him they have an image problem in town due to overzealous policing. Guess, he didn't believe me.
Sandi Desario
9:09 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
These strong arm tactics seem to be a growing problem in Mendham and Chester. In a prior Patch article the traffic stop numbers per month quoted by the Chester chief seems excessive to say the least. Sure would love to examine the stats on tickets issued to residents vs. non residents. Seems like these stops are an effort to justify the exorbitant salaries paid to "keep us safe". I applaud and thank Granny for taking a stand.
Russ Crespolini
10:38 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
Hi Sandi, If you are referring to some of the stat releases that come from Chester Township I can tell you that comparatively to the number of stops made when there is a violation to the number of tickets written the use of discretion is actually quite high. For example, this May there were 561 traffic stops and 215 tickets written in Chester Township. So tickets essentially were written 1/3 of the time. The rest were something along the lines of warnings. Residents vs. non-residents I do not have that information. But I thought you would like those latest stats.
Jane
2:54 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Excuse me, EXORBITANT? Please tell me what you think they are paid for protecting people like YOU. Granny taking a stand? Please know the facts before you write such naive statements. I work in a Pharmaceutical company where people who do LESS make 10 times MORE then these men do. FYI- ticket prices have no bearing on salary?
Stop crying and stay off the road
9:45 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
1) mendham twp police are generally pretty courteous- I have been pulled over on more than one occasion when I could have gotten a summons and did not- prior to being a resident of the twp, which I now- cannot say the same for Chester.
2) if you are driving 15 mph under the speed limit you are creating a hazard and generally pissing off the rest of us. If you are afraid to drive the speed limit, stay off the road. Those of us who drive hundreds of miles on local roads during the week don't want to deal with you and neither do the cops.
Sandi Desario
9:19 am on Friday, June 15, 2012
Hi Russ, The stats have consistently run at approx. 3/1 as you state. Perhaps the chief could release the stats for 2011 along with the ticketing of resident vs. non-resident numbers for comparison. May's decline in the number of stops may indicate an easing of the "police presence as a crime deterrent" blitz of earlier months, or 100+/- drivers have become law-abiding, or that officers are now using their discretion before making frivilous stop. I question this so called use of discretion as well. Does that mean that you and I can commit the same offense and have different outcomes? Perhaps the officer that stopped Granny should have used his discretion as well! We live in small towns and have given too much discretionary power to high paid officers with huge egos. I hope Granny teaches one good lesson!
Paul
11:22 am on Friday, June 15, 2012
Sandi, it might be safe to say that most of the tickets were issued to non residents and most of the warnings issued to town residents and holders of the get out of jail free cards. As for Officer Ambrosi stopping Granny, I see no problem with that because what if the person was in need of medical care or was searching for a residence of a friend. Maybe the person was searching for the next residence to break into and violate your personal space. Would he be "to high paid" then?
Sandi Desario
1:36 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Paul, I'd bet most tickets were issued to non-residents as we tend to not bite the hand that feeds us. Harding PO's made that mistake. I take no issue with Granny being stopped but what ensued is deplorable. She wasn't lost, wasn't sick and wasn't about to violate anyone's personal space yet she was poorly treated and falsely accused. Frankly, I wish some of our tax dollars would be invested in video cameras so we can even the playing field and keep everyone honest. Paul the odds of having my personal space violated living in this affluent area are 7800:1. I'd be more than willing to drop a few six figure incomes and take my chances! In the thousands of vehicle stops in Chester YTD how many would be robbers were arrested?
Russ Crespolini
1:41 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Sandi: real quick...remember the story is about Mendham Township Police and the stats and things you are referring to are for the CHESTER Township Police.
Also, video cameras are in the cruisers and Mrs. Meyer is obtaining a copy of the tape.
You also don't have to bet on those numbers, you can OPRA request information from your police departments if you are interested.
As are the salaries of all of your police officers. We are working on a series right now that details the training and specialization of the police officers and what they do on a daily basis. You might be surprised. I know I was.
Love this discussion guys, public safety is an important issue and I really appreciate your comments. :-)
Sandi Desario
3:46 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Russ, I hope you will follow this story to it's conclusion. The real issue here is not about which town or a statistical analysis of data as much as it is about public perception of the departments in our area. I know that there are PO's that work diligently each and every day to protect and serve for all the right reasons. Sadly, that is not always the case. I do look forward to reading your series. Thanks for the opportunity to opine.
Russ Crespolini
3:56 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
No problem, Sandi! News is a conversation and this site is just as much your site as it is mine. I am working on the pieces and I think they are interesting. But, I do understand your thoughts about over-policing. A lot of people feel that way, and you may not be wrong. I don't know the answer! But that is what I am trying to find out. But in a way that everyone can honestly just lay their cards on the table and share information.
I see both sides, which is part of my job. And I love that. Thanks for reading and for commenting.
Jane
2:57 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Did you read the conclusion Sandi? You can apologize to me, I'll pass it along.
Jane
3:07 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
JUST in case you didn't... http://mendham-chester.patch.com/articles/committee-clears-cop-in-granny-abuse-case
John Frenaye
10:34 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I don't have a horse in this race, but when a cop tells you that you were driving 15mph under the speed limit and your answer (out of left field) is "I drive a prius that gets 53 mile per gallon" it is kind of asking for further investigation.
Then when he says he thinks he smells alcohol, and she says that he should also be able to smell garlic and shrimp from dinner....why is anyone surprised.
Grannies can commit crimes as well. Grannies can drink too.
Complainers Never Win
2:13 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
"I drive a Prius that gets 53 mile per gallon"... why is this relevant? I appreciate Professional Grandmas as much as the next person, especially since my mother is a PG to my baby boy, but the point is, driving below the speed limit can often times be just as dangerous as driving above the speed limit. Grannies shouldn't get special treatment.
I think MTPD is terrific and this officer was just doing his job; something he shouldn't be punished for.
Jane
2:58 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
: )